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Hearly wrote:How would the Humans know and not the Faey, I don't think Fel has every wrote anything in the stories implying that they even think it... The only reason we know it is because Fel told us so.

Short answer: Genetics is hard, but not that hard.

Long answer: All life forms on Earth are part of a common family tree. There are about six things you can base this tree on (Anatomy, embryonic development, geographical distribution, cellular chemestry, etc) and for every basis, the tree comes out identical. This is part of why we know evolution is real. Genetics is one of these bases. If you take two organisisms, you'll find they have huge chunks of DNA in common. You can in fact use the comparative differences and similaraties to very accurately tell when the ancestors of the two species diverged, and how long ago that happened. In other words, slotting new species, and new groups of species, into the tree of life is now super easy. The same is true of RNA. This is grad student level gruge work - and that was with pre-invasion human technology. With Faey technology it is going to be one of the easiest biology experiments in the world. And now that exobiologists have aliens that confound all their theories, it will almost certainly be literally the first thing they do. It is absolutely impossible for humans not to know this. It is also (I suspect) absolutely impossible for at least some Faey to not know this.

To answer your first question though, I would suspect it's similar to the situation in North America, where everyone above the 49th parallel and everyone below (on average) the 30th parallel is moderately reasonable and sane - but half the people between those lines are too fucking stupid to understand that evolution is real, and the world is more than 6000 years old.

ANTIcarrot wrote:(Glares at Kimdori.)

You just joined trillions of beings across the galaxy. Enjoy the bandwagon!

-DM

Fel wrote:Hate to break it to you, but there ARE only 2 human generations.

Yes, Jason's extended family tree was quite large...so long as the average life expectancy was around 35-40 years. But as the lifespan increased and genetic mixing with full humans with a genetic predisposition to cancer also increased, the Generational vulnerability to cancer began to establish itself, killing off the lines. The Generational lines were also rampant with an extremely high childhood mortality rate, due to childhood cancers...mainly leukemia and lymphoma. The Generations were the only real cases of childhood cancers that the doctors in the 18th and 19th centuries had ever seen, if they could even diagnose it as cancer before the child died. So, the Generations had fewer people to live to reproduce, and that resulted in an overall smaller ancestry tree than other families.

Must admit I'd forgotten about the cancer aspect. I must have skimmed/glazed over that part in my re-read. The silly thing? I can remember - NOW - reading it the first time and realizing that it'd keep the family tree fairly pruned.

Guess I need to pay more attention when I re-read. Woe is me. Please don't throw me in that thar brier patch.

Hearly wrote:How would the Humans know and not the Faey, I don't think Fel has every wrote anything in the stories implying that they even think it... The only reason we know it is because Fel told us so.

I really must have not been paying attention! Where and when did Fel say the Faey where originally from Earth??

I said it here, and a while ago.

The Faey were transplanted off of Earth by a far superior spacefaring species and put on Draconis to save them from extinction at the hands of an emerging humanity.

This happened around 40,000 BC, as the Faey began to clash with the Aborginies that were migrating to Australia.

So, you under-the-worlders, know that the Faey were the ORIGINAL Aussies.

The Faey don't know this. They consider their ability to have children by humans to be the prime example of Gora's Law, and not the fact that the two species are actually descended from a parent race.

Fel wrote:I said it here, and a while ago.

The Faey were transplanted off of Earth by a far superior spacefaring species and put on Draconis to save them from extinction at the hands of an emerging humanity.

This happened around 40,000 BC, as the Faey began to clash with the Aborginies that were migrating to Australia.

So, you under-the-worlders, know that the Faey were the ORIGINAL Aussies.

The Faey don't know this. They consider their ability to have children by humans to be the prime example of Gora's Law, and not the fact that the two species are actually descended from a parent race.

Bullshit!! The day a faey can drown a schooner , hit a cover drive , take a specy , know where the dog on the tucker box , lay a wreath on Anzac day , and know the whole advance Australia fair , in its entirety just maybe and that's just maybe , they can be considered temporary residents. Bloody hell if they cant blow a didgeridoo , perhaps they shouldn't even deserve that. wheres my mate matty when u need him.

Fel wrote:I said it here, and a while ago.

The Faey were transplanted off of Earth by a far superior spacefaring species and put on Draconis to save them from extinction at the hands of an emerging humanity.

This happened around 40,000 BC, as the Faey began to clash with the Aborginies that were migrating to Australia.

So, you under-the-worlders, know that the Faey were the ORIGINAL Aussies.

The Faey don't know this. They consider their ability to have children by humans to be the prime example of Gora's Law, and not the fact that the two species are actually descended from a parent race.

You know Fel, I think they themselves really need to toss out Gora's law, for the simple fact that how many other species have they discovered and how many can they breed with? That in itself should cause Gora's Law to Fail the basic test Scientific tests.

Fel wrote:I said it here, and a while ago.

The Faey were transplanted off of Earth by a far superior spacefaring species and put on Draconis to save them from extinction at the hands of an emerging humanity.

This happened around 40,000 BC, as the Faey began to clash with the Aborginies that were migrating to Australia.

So, you under-the-worlders, know that the Faey were the ORIGINAL Aussies.

The Faey don't know this. They consider their ability to have children by humans to be the prime example of Gora's Law, and not the fact that the two species are actually descended from a parent race.

The more interesting thought would be this "far superior spacefaring specie" are they alive and if not are their tech left to be found??? In 42k years much can happen , makes u wounder if the kimdories know about them they keep to many secrets.

dellstart wrote:Bullshit!! The day a faey can drown a schooner , hit a cover drive , take a specy , know where the dog on the tucker box , lay a wreath on Anzac day , and know the whole advance Australia fair , in its entirety just maybe and that's just maybe , they can be considered temporary residents. Bloody hell if they cant blow a didgeridoo , perhaps they shouldn't even deserve that. wheres my mate matty when u need him.

The Faey were from New Zealand originally, but migrated to the better country for the choice weather and jobs. *ahem* *ducks*

Actually, yeah, there were a few Faey in New Zealand, as well a a very small colony in Tasmania. But the majority of them were populated on the eastern coast of Australia. Even 40,000 years ago, it was the most hospitable region of the continent.

now are the faey ever going to find this out?

Fel wrote:Actually, yeah, there were a few Faey in New Zealand, as well a a very small colony in Tasmania. But the majority of them were populated on the eastern coast of Australia. Even 40,000 years ago, it was the most hospitable region of the continent.

you mean in Victoria , don't you, cause most of us , don't even consider that even a real part of Australia. , which only proves my point.

kal wrote:now are the faey ever going to find this out?

It's more a case of when they choose to accept the knowledge; or at least when that decision is made for them. I get the immpression that what passes for the imperial news services have more in common with Fox News than CNN or the BBC, in that they tell people what they want to hear. It may be widely known that some 'puny earthlings' believe the two species might be directly related - but I can also see this being widely reguarded as a crank theory. Like Bigfoot. Or the Loch Ness Monster.

In fact, I wonder: How much of their biosphere is imported? If for example their world was terraformed prior to their arrival, and the geological bedrock shows nothing but lifeless bedrock below 40,500 years, then I can see them understanding evolution as 'something that happens to other species', but that they really were put on their world by goddesses and gods.

ANTIcarrot wrote:In fact, I wonder: How much of their biosphere is imported?

The answer to this question would open up a whole series of difficult questions. Surely the Academy, with it's data from many worlds, would be busy studying comparative origins and evolutionary trees.

Gora's Law does seem to hold, in part at least, for races like the Shio.

Let's not forget about Exile and the Gruug, do they match Gora's Law or are they another transplanted species from Earth?

These aliens must have been very advanced, it doesn't seem out of the realms of possibility that they are still around somewhere, or at least some of their technology or archeological remains might be.



Another can or worms not yet explored is the appearance in human mythology of; Kimdori (Dogheads / Werewolves), Moridon (Devils), Nine Colonies (Gray Aliens), Jobodi (Yeti), etc.

Fel wrote:I said it here, and a while ago.

The Faey were transplanted off of Earth by a far superior spacefaring species and put on Draconis to save them from extinction at the hands of an emerging humanity.

This happened around 40,000 BC, as the Faey began to clash with the Aborginies that were migrating to Australia.

So, you under-the-worlders, know that the Faey were the ORIGINAL Aussies.

The Faey don't know this. They consider their ability to have children by humans to be the prime example of Gora's Law, and not the fact that the two species are actually descended from a parent race.

Fel the Question i have that no one else has asked yet!

Was the Parent race native to earth?........or were they also a transplanted race ?

and are there any of the transplanting race still around some where watching maybe ?



Phantom