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Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am
by Dash
Is the Shadow dragon a demon?

If it is can it teleport like other demons or is it limited in that ability due to its size?

I'm not sure that a normal dragon could handle a shadow dragon without using magic to balance out the teleporting (if it has any).

The question is how instinctive does Tarrin have a dragons abilities? A real dragon should have years and years experience in dragon form, so should have a big advantage using their natural abilities (in this case fighting demons and other dragons in the nest etc.) I would have thought the Shadow dragon has got big advantages over him in the dragon form.

I would think that Tarrin has more success in his normal form. Divine wings that reshape, a big nasty sword. Abililty to turn into fire and disappear. Not obey gravity so can zip sideways etc. Sorcery. He could do the mountain trick again. Puncture the dragon with sword and send a big burst of sorcery thru the sword and blow the shadow dragon apart.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:53 pm
by Lochar
Problem with that last idea is that Niami was the one who created the Ward around the mountain.  It'd take another divine intervention like that again.

As for the other ideas, Tarrin needs to stay in his dragon form so he can shrug off any stray attacks that make it up to them.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:41 pm
by Dash
I meant mountain trick as in casting into something the size of a mountain  ;D

I take your point about the other attacks and the dragon should be able to shrug it off.

But I think a shadow dragon will beat Tarrin in dragon form  :P

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:09 am
by Hearly
Not sure why tarrin even really has to fight the "shadow dragon" couldn't he just banish it?

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:18 pm
by Wildcat
But how long would it take to cast a banishment? If he sits there too long it'll just step on him.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:30 am
by J-Man5
Why can't Tarrin let the shadow dragon swallow him?  Then change size/shape inside it.  It's not like his healing properties wouldn't protect him long enough.  

Then when he expands his size el explodo shadow dragon.

J-Man5

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:15 am
by Shadowhawk
My idea also, exactly, J-Man5. But I think dragons chew before swallowing, so this might not be very good idea...

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:24 am
by Lochar
The dragon is extradimensional, so it can do true harm to Tarrin's godly powers.  So if he let the dragon swallow him, one good breath weapon while he's in the throat would probably destroy him.

Then again, if Tarrin's destroyed we've got yet another release of godly might.  Wanna watch MAD?

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:29 pm
by J-Man5
Couldn't he change into something small and fast and dive down the gullet of the Shadow dragon?  Or since the Armor he's wearing is invulnerable to Demons he should be able to attach while covered completely with his new armor and use his wings to fly and attack.  He should be smaller, faster and more manuverable than a large dragon. Being invulnerable with the flowed out armor should provide the protection and the cats claws and his sword shoud give him more than enough "teeth" to do severe damage.

J-Man5

p.s.  I guess we really won't know till chapter 15.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:47 pm
by Lochar
His armor is only for his humanoid form.  When he changes form, the Cat's Claws go into the elsewhere.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:26 pm
by Shadowhawk
It is a pity that he can't use armor in his winged cat form. This form would be fine for this trick (if he didn't get 'breathed' during travel thru shadow dragon gullet). But I think that he could use his speed and maneuvability of his winged human form, and use shadow dragon larger size to his advantage. I know, easier said than done...

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:51 pm
by J-Man5
shadowhawk wrote:It is a pity that he can't use armor in his winged cat form. This form would be fine for this trick (if he didn't get 'breathed' during travel thru shadow dragon gullet). But I think that he could use his speed and maneuvability of his winged human form, and use shadow dragon larger size to his advantage. I know, easier said than done...

From Chapter 14
[quote}
When the light faded, Tarrin Kael was adorned in a suit of black armor patterned after the armor of the Knights of Karas, upon the chest of which was the shaeram of the order of Niami contained within the chest of a dragon whose wings flared out and over his shoulders, shoulders which showed the etched relief of the sword and spear symbol of FaraNae on one shoulder, and the hammer symbol of Karas on the other.  The armor covered every square finger of him except for his head and his wings, and it glittered in the light of the morning sun. [/quote]

So Tarrin has wings and armor.  So why shouldn't he go after the Shadow dragon in this form?  The armor is invulnerable to demons and it can damage them and his wings are divine and they can hurt demons.   So.....


J-Man5

p.s. Again waiting for Fel's definitive work or answer on this.  

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:24 am
by Fel
j-man5 wrote:

From Chapter 14So Tarrin has wings and armor. So why shouldn't he go after the Shadow dragon in this form? The armor is invulnerable to demons and it can damage them and his wings are divine and they can hurt demons. So.....


J-Man5

p.s. Again waiting for Fel's definitive work or answer on this.
Wait for the chapter, I'm not gonna answer  ;)

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:05 am
by Shadowhawk
Bu the way, you do remember that Tarrin knows Wizardry short-range Teleport spell, from his encounter with red dragon Firestaff Guardian? I wonder if it works on Pyrosia. It would help immensely in fight with shadow dragon, if it isn't a demon with innate Teleporting, in which case Tarrin would need to block all teleporting.

Re: Chapter 14 Cliffhanger Question. Big spoiler.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:27 am
by Dash
Can Tarrin control his size? Since his wings control his overall shape and form, he has no defined size.

Just as long as he is anatomically correct e.g. druid has touched the creature. Couldn't he become the biggest baddest dragon?

He can to some extent, because he copied his drake didn't he? and made a dragon equivalent?

I'm sure he has the power to be larger, since his power has increased since he acknowledged that he was part god.