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In Honor and Blood, chapter 11, i read this;

       You fool!  If you destroy us, you destroy yourself!

       The voice seemed to echo through the Weave, echo from a time and place distant from him, like a memory of a dream.  A memory of the past.

       The Tower of Dreams has been destroyed!  Thousands are dead!

       The Conduit at the Tower of Dreams has broken!  The shock of it destroyed the Tower of Stars!

       Mikan, you fool, don't you understand?  The Weave can't survive this!  It's going to tear!

       Where were the voices coming from?  They echoed through the Weave, like whispers from the past.  Were they truly the voices of the Ancients, still drifting along the currents of magic for a thousand years?  Or were they merely shades of the past, conjured by his own imagination?

       We have no choice, Keeper!  We must flee to the Lost City.  You know what's going to happen, and who will they blame?

       The Sui'Kun! a ragged cry called.  The Sui'Kun are dying, Keeper!  Their hearts are bursting like balloons!

Note; We must flee to the Lost City.

This is probably the answer to where the sorcerers dissapeared to. I'm sure we will sometime sooner or later get there, if Fel hasn't forgotten that he wrote that. And i also assume it's on sennadar, maybe phased out of reality somewhere without time and out of touch with the weave.

Or, i could be compleatly wrong and just go with conclutions drawn from nowhere. I don't know. I don't even know why i'm posting this. Just felt that i should, i guess. Tcheah! I'll get an answer sometime anyway.

Sidenote:
[left]I wonder: if it is possible to remove the memories from the Weave (to protect the information from Weavespinners, and Wizards and Priests Augury), is it possible to store false memories in the Weave? Just wondering...[/left]

Yep, it's possible. I seem to remeber that it takes several gods to do it though... And it's only been done once, to everyone's knowledge (well, to Tarrin and friends at least...), and that was the Firestaff's location. Besides, why would they want to remove the memory of where they went off to? It's not very likely for someone not a sorcerer to look for the information, and they would only want to bring them back. Or was that even what you meant?

guardian_mike wrote:Yep, it's possible [to remove the memory/information from the weave]. I seem to remeber that it takes several gods to do it though... And it's only been done once, to everyone's knowledge (well, to Tarrin and friends at least...), and that was the Firestaff's location. Besides, why would they want to remove the memory of where they went off to? It's not very likely for someone not a sorcerer to look for the information, and they would only want to bring them back. Or was that event what you meant?

No, I thought that the memory of Lost City you quoted might be "false memory" (the second option). Humans might have them, you know (or not). Or rather I thought that might be possible to put false traces in the Weave (being more general). If it is the same as with human (our) memory that strong emotions makes memories stronger and longer lasting (and that remembering the memories makes them longer lasting... if somewhat distorted) it could be possible to store e.g. Weavespinner nightmare or hallucinations. If it is not thru people the memory of events is stored, still it could be possible to product false memoriws in the Weave. Thought I don't know how...

But it was just the thought, nothing serious. Just a way for Fel to explain why there is no further info about Lost City ::  ;) ;D

I always thought the Lost City was Sha'Kari (sp) perhaps not...

greymist wrote:I always thought the Lost City was Sha'Kari (sp) perhaps not...

Same here...

Of course I remember that.

The short answer is that they're dead.  They meant to flee, but were killed when the sui'kun died.  That's what the last line of the flashback meant.

Yes, Sha'Kari was the Lost City.  They knew that some of their number fled there before the Breaking, even though they had no idea that the Firestaff was on the island.

The only Ancients that survived the Breaking were on Sha'Kari.  All the others died.

The memory of Sha'Kari was pulled from the Weave by the Elder Gods, because they knew what was there, and they didn't want anyone getting curious.  With the Ancients who fled there trapped inside the ward, they weren't all that worried about them.  Even if they found out the Firestaff was there, breached the barrier, defeated the dragon, and sacrificed someone to eat the curse protecting it, the corrupting power of the Firestaf would have made them kill each other.

Brutal, but sometimes you have to be ruthless when the fate of the world hangs in the balance.

The Grand would have been a formidable threat, because time would be short, and he had utter control of everyone on the island.  The corruption of the Firestaff would have eroded that control, but it still would have given him a major advantage.  Had Tarrin not arrived when he did, there was a very good chance that Syllis would have managed to keep possession of the Firestaff up til God's Day, given Sha'Kari's extremely remote location.

Well, i guess that explains that. Oh well...