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It just hit me about the glowing eyes signifying anger and rage for Werecats. The glow is green, but so is all werecat eyes, from what i've been able to tell. Except Kimmie's. She has blue eyes. Does they still glow green, or do they glow blue?

What i'm thinking is that the glow isn't really connected to a specific color, but more an internal light that amplifies the normal eyecolor. Ie, green eyes glow green and blue glows blue. (And will we ever get to see Kimmie in a Rage?)

Hmmm... this reminds me of something. I wonder about the eyesight of a werecat in hybrid form. The vertical slits for the pupil (apple of the eye) is good for seeing in the dark and maybe for move detection, but it would make the sharpness of the vision worse. The smaller the pupil, the larger range (depth) of sharp vision. The reflective coating of the retina (if I did not mistaken something about the construction of the cat's eye) make it possible to see in very low light, as some kind of light enhancement or nightvision (not thermovision!) but I suppose it can play havoc on the details (were)cat can see.

The way what Tarrin sees is described it looks like the werecat vision (in hybrid form) is almost human, but with added low light vision (I suppose colorless/black-and-white vision, as detecting color requires more light). Werecats are magical creatures thought. But I think in the cat form they should have cats vision (some research is needed[sup]*)[/sup]) as in human form is almost human (maybe better, but still human-like).

*) I think that the Transformation Story Archive, especially The Blind Pig Mill in the Worlds section would be good start. Yes, there is more about psychology than physical changes like eyesight, hearing, sense of smell and other senses... but there are also.

BTW. why the change of the name from Guardian_Mike to Weresmilodon?

shadowhawk wrote:Hmmm... this reminds me of something. I wonder about the eyesight of a werecat in hybrid form. The vertical slits for the pupil (apple of the eye) is good for seeing in the dark and maybe for move detection, but it would make the sharpness of the vision worse. The smaller the pupil, the larger range (depth) of sharp vision. The reflective coating of the retina (if I did not mistaken something about the construction of the cat's eye) make it possible to see in very low light, as some kind of light enhancement or nightvision (not thermovision!) but I suppose it can play havoc on the details (were)cat can see.

I would think that there is a bit of magic involved here. Maybe. There are humans in the real world who have somewhat slitted pupils, without losing any sight. But then, they are human...

shadowhawk wrote:BTW. why the change of the name from Guardian_Mike to Weresmilodon?

Weresmilodon is a nickname i have used for some time now. I use it almost everywhere nowadays. Guardian_Mike was the name i had on the original messageboard, before it got SPAMed to death. I kept in the move, and have used it since. I just now discovered that you can change the name that is shown (not the account name), so i decided to finally start using Weresmilodon here as well.

Some URLs about cat vision (I don't know if everything is correct there):

• http://videoforcats.com/catvision.htm - has some description of experiment
• http://www.shvaika.ic.ck.ua/feelings/feelingsengl.html - maybe too 'cat is better'

I'll have to check them out tomorrow. It's 04:40 in the night, and i haven't gotten enough sleep the last few days. It's so bad that my sense of balance is being affected...

The short answer is that cat eyesight is not as bad (considering sharpness) as I thought. The second site tells it is (six times) better. There are things that I think are errors I have found on this (second) site, so be careful. The first tells that cats are (slightly) nearsighted, and their color sense is quite different from human (more greyscales than color).

The vertical pupil allows for much faster adaptation to darkness (and probably to light) than human. I still wonder if there are any drawback, like worse depth of sharp vision (i.e. the ability to see sharp simultanously the items that are close and items that are further away). The reflective layer might not make the keen(?) of eyesight worse. Still I think that there is no such thing like a free lunch (TASTAAFL princile)... and probably there are some drawbacks to vertical slit pupil and to reflective layer in the eye.

guardian_mike wrote:It just hit me about the glowing eyes signifying anger and rage for Werecats. The glow is green, but so is all werecat eyes, from what i've been able to tell. Except Kimmie's. She has blue eyes. Does they still glow green, or do they glow blue?

What I'm thinking is that the glow isn't really connected to a specific color, but more an internal light that amplifies the normal eyecolor. I.e., green eyes glow green and blue glows blue.

I agree with you that the Kimmie's eyes (I don't remember it well, but I think that Kimmie children have blue eyes too) would glow her natural color, i.e. blue in Rage. But changing the color is also possible. I wonder whether whole eye turns glowing green/blue, or it is only the iris which glows?

guardian_mike wrote:(And will we ever get to see Kimmie in a Rage?)

I vaguely remember Fel hinting somewhere in Tarrin stories that Kimmie in Rage would be very, very dangerous. More dangerous than Mist (or tarrin) even. I wouldn't like to bee in the same room when Kimmie went Rage. Or rather the same city. Make it country. Or continent. Heck, even plane could be not enough...

if you remember to factor in the fact that she`s a mage as well as a werecat I would have to agree that yes Kimmie would be more dangrious than Mist in a rage .However she would be nowhere as dangerious as Tarrin ,His Daughter or his Foster mother.As a mater of fact I wonder who would be more dangerious in a rage tarrin or His foster mom ( sorry guys the black hole in my mind ate her name,I hope it will give it back later)

rick wrote:If you remember the factor that she`s a Mage as well as a Werecat I would have to agree that Kimmie would be more dangerous than Mist in a Rage.  However she would be nowhere as dangerious as Tarrin, His Daughter (Jasana) or his Foster mother [bond-mother] (Triana). As a mater of fact I wonder who would be more dangerous in Rage: Tarrin or Triana.

If Kimmie could enter cold Rage (i.e. no blind fury) similar to the way Mist enters it, I think she could be more dangerous in that state than even Tarrin. Even if Arcane magic (Wizardry) needs more time than Weavespinning, chanting a spell and sometimes additionall items. Silent water...

Silent, quiet, undemanding Kimmie in Rage... ::shudder::  :o

shadowhawk wrote:Silent, quiet, undemanding Kimmie in Rage... ::shudder::

It could happen easily.  Remember, the easiest way to set off the Rage is to push a Were's instincts.  What do you think would happen if someone threatened her kids?  We've seen that happen with all of Tarrin's other mates.