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				tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:15 am
				by dellstart
				I have a pretty decent  comp ( whose specs  i guess i will share in  a moment )and  enjoy  playing a wide range of  PC games.
Normally  before    I     purchase )   , I  run  my  spec  by a little program   "can you run it."   
http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/
This  time however , I  received the following 
 CPU
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater   
You Have: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz     Fail  in their words 
  Do -  have  XP   on  a   HP media center 2005   by the way 
  	
CPU Speed
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater    You Have: 3.06 GHz    (pass)
Plus  everything else was  pass too   be it   RAM ,  VID card ,  OS    etc
My  question is , is this a  problem   and  if it  is   what can i do about it?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:41 am
				by Hearly
				dellstart wrote:I have a pretty decent  comp ( whose specs  i guess i will share in  a moment )and  enjoy  playing a wide range of  PC games.
Normally  before    I     purchase )   , I  run  my  spec  by a little program   "can you run it."   
http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/
This  time however , I  received the following 
 CPU
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater   
You Have: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz     Fail  in their words 
  Do -  have  XP   on  a   HP media center 2005   by the way 
  	
CPU Speed
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater    You Have: 3.06 GHz    (pass)
Plus  everything else was  pass too   be it   RAM ,  VID card ,  OS    etc
My  question is , is this a  problem   and  if it  is   what can i do about it?
 
Yes, looks like you need a newer computer, the single core just can't keep up with even a dual core 2ghz.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:59 am
				by dellstart
				Hearly wrote:dellstart wrote:I have a pretty decent  comp ( whose specs  i guess i will share in  a moment )and  enjoy  playing a wide range of  PC games.
Normally  before    I     purchase )   , I  run  my  spec  by a little program   "can you run it."   
http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/srtest/
This  time however , I  received the following 
 CPU
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater   
You Have: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz     Fail  in their words 
  Do -  have  XP   on  a   HP media center 2005   by the way 
  	
CPU Speed
Minimum: Intel Core 2 (or equivalent) running at 1.4 GHz or greater (Vista/7 requires 1.6 GHz or greater), AMD X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater    You Have: 3.06 GHz    (pass)
Plus  everything else was  pass too   be it   RAM ,  VID card ,  OS    etc
My  question is , is this a  problem   and  if it  is   what can i do about it?
 
Yes, looks like you need a newer computer, the single core just can't keep up with even a dual core 2ghz.
 
I  am  kinda  afraid of that,  cause  cash  is  a bit tight  at the moment, to  plonk  down  on  new  comp. My question  do  i really have  any other options(  ie  a cheaper   solution ) ?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:18 am
				by Spec8472
				The Pentium 4 CPU line is quite old. 
The Intel Core line is the sucessor to the Pentium line, and uses a much more efficient and faster architecture. 
The Intel Core2 Duo lineup is a series of Dual-Core (two processors in one chip) CPUs which although may "only" be running at about 2Ghz, is able to do a lot more. 
Unfortunately your CPU, motherboard, and RAM is of a significantly older architecture, and isn't compatible with the Core architecture.  That said, an entry level Core2 CPU, Motherboard, and new RAM shouldn't set you back too much. 
Core2 Duo E7500 + Motherboard + 4GB RAM shouldn't come to more than USD$350 or so. Less if you look around carefully.  
In the Intel Core line, the i5/i7 models are the newest, although the Core2 models are still decent (all my machines are based on these).
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:57 am
				by Hearly
				I'd like to also add, Walmart has some very cheaply priced Dell's (you do get what you pay for though) but something to tied you over for awhile they will work.
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:09 pm
				by dellstart
				Thanks  guys , this really helps.
I  am not a total noobie   when it comes to computers , its just that   when  ever  i have needed to add  RAM or   improve a  vid card , I kinda  know what  to    do  . A CPU  problem  ( though   for almost everything else its a  pretty good) is something new.
Found this on my search a round the web  
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=3446
Though if  you throw  in  the  4 GB   is  another  hundred. 
 Still have to check  some  cheapish   comps   prices   on  walmart    and  other things.  This is an education for sure
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:48 pm
				by Phantom
				dellstart wrote:Thanks  guys , this really helps.
I  am not a total noobie   when it comes to computers , its just that   when  ever  i have needed to add  RAM or   improve a  vid card , I kinda  know what  to    do  . A CPU  problem  ( though   for almost everything else its a  pretty good) is something new.
Found this on my search a round the web  
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=3446
Though if  you throw  in  the  4 GB   is  another  hundred. 
 Still have to check  some  cheapish   comps   prices   on  walmart    and  other things.  This is an education for sure
 
only problem i can see with that system ....and one you should watch for these days ..
if your playing lots of games .....the Power supply in that system is only what a 350 watt model 
personaly i'd go with at least a 450 watt ps.....or 600+ watt if possiable 
If you move into Pci express Video cards or use a lot of USB stuff you will quickly find you need lots and lots of power
Phantom
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:48 am
				by Spec8472
				
Yep, that'd be a decent start. You should more than likely be able to keep your existing video card if you want. 
Like Phantom says, if you have, or are going to be using very high powered video cards, then you'll likely need a bigger power supply - but that can be swapped out later if needed. 
If you don't need the case, and you've already got a power supply that's 350W or higher, then you should be able to save a few $ by getting the mobo/cpu/ram alone. 
(Also, it already includes 4GB RAM in that kit, add another 4GB if you want 8GB total, but you'd need to use a 64bit OS - like windows 7 x64 or vista x64)
 
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:19 pm
				by dellstart
				Ok  I will   take that  into account  and  a look around  some  more  and see what  pops up.
Thanks heaps guys
  details to follow.
			 
			
					
				Re: tech advice --  kinda
				Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:14 am
				by Wiz
				If you are going to upgrade your motherboard, cpu, memory and/or psu the best place I have found for hardware reviews is 
http://www.hardocp.com
The site is mostly for gamers and overclockers but it does also review some entry level hardware.
The review for entry level psu is here 
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/02/ ... y_roundup/
They go into detail about the performance and are not afraid to give bad reviews.