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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
Actually, L. Ron Hubbard wrote Battlefield Earth before he started Scientology. I think he wrote the book back in the late 50's/early 60's, but it wasn't published for a few years after it was done. The way that Hubbard conceptualizes ultra-advanced technology (drawing in the circuit, if you've read it) shows that it was written well before the mainstreaming of the concepts of digital technology.
Pretty good book. Really stupid movie.
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
Fel! How could you!
Leaving it at a point like that... ugh...
I think i'm gonna start calling you Mr Cliffhanger
Leaving it at a point like that... ugh...
I think i'm gonna start calling you Mr Cliffhanger

And today's Spelling Bee Winner is... [s]Mr Picky[/s] Shadowhawk!shadowhawk wrote: Should not this be "Subjegation", not "Subjugation"?

You should thank Fel for writing the stories... or strangle him, depending upon the level of cliffhanger he's left us on with the previously released chapter... After all without his writing, none of this would exist...canisd wrote:You should thank Spec8472. He's the one giving space.
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
I think he's been taking lessons in cliffhangers from Tenhawk, over at journeyverse. Fel, you're getting just as bad as him at leaving us there wanting more.spec8472 wrote:Fel! How could you!
Leaving it a point like that... ugh...
I think i'm gonna start calling you Mr Cliffhanger![]()
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
You noobs!
He used to do the whole cliffhanger thing in a really bad way back when he was writing honour and blood.
He used to do the whole cliffhanger thing in a really bad way back when he was writing honour and blood.
Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
greymist wrote:You noobs!
He used to do the whole cliffhanger thing in a really bad way back when he was writing honour and blood.
Well excuse my newbie ass for stating the truth

Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
Right-o! More subjugation. It's getting interesting, especially since Jason is proving to be every bit as much as big asset as the Fay thought him to be. I suspect they might be wanting him really badly now. At least if they figure that he's a HUMAN telepath AND a brialliant inventor. There's a asset that they can't pass by, they need some to mind-rape him and make him their researching/spy-boy.
Incidentally, Fel, I also re-read Alpha Project chapter 1 a while ago, and I STILL think it is the best of the lot. Very good characterisations, a real world to relate agains, nicely flawed nearly amoral main-character, pretty babe to hunt him down, and ... the best of all, the plot does not promise to be epic.
Epic storylines are a bit too ... epic. Sometimes.
Anyway, Subjugation is the next best thing, and I am extremely grateful that you keep writing at all. There's too little good fiction in the 'net. At least unread fiction (to me).
As for subjugation, it is as before. It promises to be very interesting storyline but the characters draw a little too close parallel lines with Tarrin's chronicles to be comfortable. Women who are open sexually, and not so picky about who you lay with, the personalities, and the dominating women... hmm... you have pet fetishes, Fel?
This is not meant as insulting, or even to criticize your writing, just something that caught my eye. While there may be a resemblance, Subjugation still is clearly a whole different story. But ... reason why I preferred Alpha Project. "Kit" just screamed out from the pages that he is himself and no one else. Then again as a point in favor, the Sci-Fi elements of Subjugation are extremely refreshing change from the usual fantasy fare.
As for the Railgun, wouldn't it improve the mechanics of the weapons if it had some kind of pulse emitter that would "burn" air and create a momentary vacuum for the projectile to travel in. I understand this would make the weapon nearly noiseless except the "woosh" or "pop" (whichever, I can't guess) when the vacuum would be filled with air. Considering the level of technology I don't think this would be exactly impossible. Maybe impractical? Nah. I don't think so. Consider about it.
And since someone mentioned nukes, I think Antimatter bomb would be a good idea to come up with, if you want to get rid of one planet. Heh. And I would suggest that Jason's ultimate invention would be Gravitational Beam Emitter. A gun that shoots small black holes... umm... sweeet...
I can't think ANYTHING that would stop a small black hole. Including shields. As I understand it would draw any, and all, particles nearby into itself (even laser, since black holes are heavy enough to suck light. Literally.) and ... well... ouch. I wonder how big of a area of effect such "bullet" (notice the quotes) would have? Would it draw only the very material "touching" it, or would it cause a small gravitational "well" around it so that everything withing say... a one feet (two, six, ten?) ... would be instantly sucked within it? Of course, the power of the "suction" (gravity) of the "bullet" would increase/decrease expotentially the closer/farther away you are from the center of it.
Hmmm... how would you even control such weapon? Ah. Blah. I am not intelligent nor educated enough to babble about these things. Just Sci-Fi things going rampart in my head, once again.
In conclusion, Fel, excellent chapter!
I figured someone would come for protection near Jason. I bet he'll need to fight with some gangs if this keeps going, gangs want weapons and food that those honest working people are producing (yes, there was a bit of sarcasm there). And if his reputation keeps growing then the refugees will just expotentially grow comin' (hey, it rhymes). If my guess is anywhere near the mark. Probably not, but still...
And then there's the Fay... ooo... Shit happens. Mr. Inventor might need to come up with some damn effective things.
Since someone dubbed Shadohawk as the "Mr.Picky", and being the benevolent entity that I am, I wish to relieve him of such demeaning title by taking it myself.
There's quite a plethora of typos in this chapter that grabbed my attention. One of the repeating ones is "Embarrasing" which is as far as I know (I do not speak english as my native language) spelled with two "s", instead of one. I should know, since I still tend to type that damn word with only one "r". Blah.
Mayhap Fel you might want to use http://www.openoffice.org - if you're feeling adventurous, since it hosts a somewhat decent spellchecker and the program is quite completely freeware and in my humble opinion just as good as Word. ... Well, word sucks anyway. And I guess you're not using word since it has spell checker too... hmm... or maybe I am the one who's wrong here about typos altogether?
I have no idea how Australian or British or American spelling differs. All I know that Color is american spelling and Colour is British. I think.
I think I'll stop babbling. Later.
Incidentally, Fel, I also re-read Alpha Project chapter 1 a while ago, and I STILL think it is the best of the lot. Very good characterisations, a real world to relate agains, nicely flawed nearly amoral main-character, pretty babe to hunt him down, and ... the best of all, the plot does not promise to be epic.
Epic storylines are a bit too ... epic. Sometimes.
Anyway, Subjugation is the next best thing, and I am extremely grateful that you keep writing at all. There's too little good fiction in the 'net. At least unread fiction (to me).
As for subjugation, it is as before. It promises to be very interesting storyline but the characters draw a little too close parallel lines with Tarrin's chronicles to be comfortable. Women who are open sexually, and not so picky about who you lay with, the personalities, and the dominating women... hmm... you have pet fetishes, Fel?
This is not meant as insulting, or even to criticize your writing, just something that caught my eye. While there may be a resemblance, Subjugation still is clearly a whole different story. But ... reason why I preferred Alpha Project. "Kit" just screamed out from the pages that he is himself and no one else. Then again as a point in favor, the Sci-Fi elements of Subjugation are extremely refreshing change from the usual fantasy fare.
As for the Railgun, wouldn't it improve the mechanics of the weapons if it had some kind of pulse emitter that would "burn" air and create a momentary vacuum for the projectile to travel in. I understand this would make the weapon nearly noiseless except the "woosh" or "pop" (whichever, I can't guess) when the vacuum would be filled with air. Considering the level of technology I don't think this would be exactly impossible. Maybe impractical? Nah. I don't think so. Consider about it.
And since someone mentioned nukes, I think Antimatter bomb would be a good idea to come up with, if you want to get rid of one planet. Heh. And I would suggest that Jason's ultimate invention would be Gravitational Beam Emitter. A gun that shoots small black holes... umm... sweeet...
I can't think ANYTHING that would stop a small black hole. Including shields. As I understand it would draw any, and all, particles nearby into itself (even laser, since black holes are heavy enough to suck light. Literally.) and ... well... ouch. I wonder how big of a area of effect such "bullet" (notice the quotes) would have? Would it draw only the very material "touching" it, or would it cause a small gravitational "well" around it so that everything withing say... a one feet (two, six, ten?) ... would be instantly sucked within it? Of course, the power of the "suction" (gravity) of the "bullet" would increase/decrease expotentially the closer/farther away you are from the center of it.
Hmmm... how would you even control such weapon? Ah. Blah. I am not intelligent nor educated enough to babble about these things. Just Sci-Fi things going rampart in my head, once again.
In conclusion, Fel, excellent chapter!
I figured someone would come for protection near Jason. I bet he'll need to fight with some gangs if this keeps going, gangs want weapons and food that those honest working people are producing (yes, there was a bit of sarcasm there). And if his reputation keeps growing then the refugees will just expotentially grow comin' (hey, it rhymes). If my guess is anywhere near the mark. Probably not, but still...
And then there's the Fay... ooo... Shit happens. Mr. Inventor might need to come up with some damn effective things.
Since someone dubbed Shadohawk as the "Mr.Picky", and being the benevolent entity that I am, I wish to relieve him of such demeaning title by taking it myself.
There's quite a plethora of typos in this chapter that grabbed my attention. One of the repeating ones is "Embarrasing" which is as far as I know (I do not speak english as my native language) spelled with two "s", instead of one. I should know, since I still tend to type that damn word with only one "r". Blah.
Mayhap Fel you might want to use http://www.openoffice.org - if you're feeling adventurous, since it hosts a somewhat decent spellchecker and the program is quite completely freeware and in my humble opinion just as good as Word. ... Well, word sucks anyway. And I guess you're not using word since it has spell checker too... hmm... or maybe I am the one who's wrong here about typos altogether?
I have no idea how Australian or British or American spelling differs. All I know that Color is american spelling and Colour is British. I think.
I think I'll stop babbling. Later.
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
I believe that Fel is typing these stories in Wordpad (or he was the last time I heard)
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
straechav, Somethings I've been thinking about...
As more people come to Jason for "protection" etc, this will eventually be noticed by the faey, will they do something about it? what happens if people start fleeing the farms to come to Jason, To me the End game of the story is either Jason becoming King of the earth and removing the Faey from it (which might be kinda hard) or they decide that mind raping him would remove any benefit they would get from him for research and they reach some type of understanding where he will develop non-military type equipement, and for doing that they will leave him and his "people" alone..
As more people come to Jason for "protection" etc, this will eventually be noticed by the faey, will they do something about it? what happens if people start fleeing the farms to come to Jason, To me the End game of the story is either Jason becoming King of the earth and removing the Faey from it (which might be kinda hard) or they decide that mind raping him would remove any benefit they would get from him for research and they reach some type of understanding where he will develop non-military type equipement, and for doing that they will leave him and his "people" alone..
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
Well, certainly the weapon which shoots/uses black holes holds certain appeal. Although I think that much, much more dangerous would be tidal forces than directly gravitation of a black hole. See for example Larry Niven short story titled "The Hole Man" (e.g. in "A Hole in Space" book) or fanfic mentioned on this forum, namely GURPS Warriors/Bubblegum Crisis crossover "Drunkard's Walk II: Robot's Rules of Order", Chapter 11 to be more precise. As to how to control such a weapon? Use antigravitation, Lukestraechav wrote:I would suggest that Jason's ultimate invention would be Gravitational Beam Emitter. A gun that shoots small black holes... umm... sweeet...
I can't think ANYTHING that would stop a small black hole. Including shields. As I understand it would draw any, and all, particles nearby into itself (even laser, since black holes are heavy enough to suck light. Literally.) and ... well... ouch. I wonder how big of a area of effect such "bullet" (notice the quotes) would have? Would it draw only the very material "touching" it, or would it cause a small gravitational "well" around it so that everything withing say... a one feet (two, six, ten?) ... would be instantly sucked within it? Of course, the power of the "suction" (gravity) of the "bullet" would increase/decrease expotentially the closer/farther away you are from the center of it.
Hmmm... how would you even control such weapon? Ah. Blah. I am not intelligent nor educated enough to babble about these things. Just Sci-Fi things going rampart in my head, once again.

There is only one little thing if we want to be in agreement with physics. The little thing called Hawking radiation (it's from general relativity and quantum mechanics/quantum field theory patched together: we dont have quantum gravittation theory yet). Black holes emits radiation: the smaller black hole is the more Hawking radiation it emits (it has higher "temperature"). So there is lower limit on mass of the black hole we can use, if we want it not to vanish before it hits the target. I'm not General Relativity specialist, so I cannot calculate the minimum mass (and "size") of the black hole which would not vanish faster than fraction of second, or a minute, or an hour. So I will rely on links provided by Google. The radiation temperature T is proportinal to 1/M and 1/r_s (where M is the mass of a black hole and r_s the radius of event horizon, i.e. Schwarzschild radius). Evaporation time t is proportional to M^3 (when no matter or radiation, even cosmic background radiation falls into the black hole). Wikipedia tells that 1-second black hole has mass around 10^5 kg (and <tt>units</tt> program tells me that it has size around 10^-22 meters, much smaller than nanometer, and 1% of earth gravity at distance of 1 centimeter (0.2% at inch) from the black hole).
On the other hand Hawking radiation, or to be more precise the evaporation of a black hole can be used as weapon itself. The final stage of black hole evaporations is... quite dramatic.on
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
Rule #1: NEVER give the author/gm any ideas as these tend to end up bad for those involved.
Rule #2: ALWAYS, ALWAYS, follow Rule #1.
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lol, don't worry Tyl, they can imagine all they want, but I already know what Jason invents. ;)
Strae: yah, there are some similarities between Were-cats and the Faey, but I promise that it's not completely intentional. The similarity is there because of the concept of gender dominance. Females are dominant in Faey society due to the fact that they are stronger telepaths, thus they are the "aggressors," acting much as human males do in our society. Were-cats have no dominant gender, since it's a matter of instinct. They do what they want to do, and to hell with what anyone thinks.
Spelling: I use Word, but usually forget to spellcheck. If anything, finding my typos keeps you people on your toes. Think of it as a game of hide and seek.
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Alpha project: I'm glad you like that one. After I get tired of Subjugation, I'll finish Sword of Fire, then I might start to work on one of the other projects. I know you like Alpha Project, but I'm not sure if I'll work on it or Dragon Star. That story has a lot of potential too, mainly because the first chapter really in no way touches on the actual plot of the story. It's much more about a naive, somewhat bewildered young man's travels through the spacefaring world than it is about the war between him and the megacorp over the mecha. But you have to set up the background, you know. ;)
But, no matter what I work on, I'm just glad that everyone likes it. Sometimes I feel like it's hard to please everyone, ya know. ;)
And fear not, being the thinker I am, I'm always trying to come up with new stories to write. Current ideas I'm kicking around:
1) A modern fantasy story about seven souls tasked to defend the dimension or Earth against the forces of chaos (not "evil", but Chaos. This isn't a good vs. evil story, it's a kind of law vs. chaos story). These seven people are immortal in that they are immediately reborn when they die (meaning they CAN die) and forget everything, forced to learn it all over again. The story revolves around one of the seven relearning everything after being reincarnated.
2) A modern "fantasy" style story about a fallen angel, an exiled demon, and a very special little girl prophecized to end the war between Heaven and Hell, thereby triggering the apocalypse.
3) I've often pondered resurrecting an OLD story I once wrote, kind of like my own fan-fic by borrowing several characters out of the Firestaff epic and sticking them into a modern setting. That story involved a magical civilization breaching the dimensional barriers (Lo and Behold, the Arakites!) and invading Earth in modern times, and how the people of Earth used magic in retaliation, learned from captured Arakite war mages, to create a race of magically-endowed super-beings called the Symbions. The Symbions are a race much like the Wikuni of the Firestaff, anthropomorphic beings that possess magical powers. Tarrin naturally made an appearance as the lead character of that old spin-off, starring in the role of the oldest of all the Symbions obsessed with bringing the war to an end, even though he knew that the end of the war would cause the humans to destroy the Symbions out of fear.
Tarrin was in it, as was Binter, Ulfan, Kalina, and Shiika (though not as the Empress).
This story always had possibilities. I could probably redo it by yanking out the Firestaff characters and replacing them with unique ones, but I had a blast writing it. Too bad it only went six chapters before I lost the spiral notebook I'd been writing it in, and never bothered to rewrite it.
There's something even more for you guys to chew on. ;)
Strae: yah, there are some similarities between Were-cats and the Faey, but I promise that it's not completely intentional. The similarity is there because of the concept of gender dominance. Females are dominant in Faey society due to the fact that they are stronger telepaths, thus they are the "aggressors," acting much as human males do in our society. Were-cats have no dominant gender, since it's a matter of instinct. They do what they want to do, and to hell with what anyone thinks.
Spelling: I use Word, but usually forget to spellcheck. If anything, finding my typos keeps you people on your toes. Think of it as a game of hide and seek.
THERE WILL BE A TEST!
Alpha project: I'm glad you like that one. After I get tired of Subjugation, I'll finish Sword of Fire, then I might start to work on one of the other projects. I know you like Alpha Project, but I'm not sure if I'll work on it or Dragon Star. That story has a lot of potential too, mainly because the first chapter really in no way touches on the actual plot of the story. It's much more about a naive, somewhat bewildered young man's travels through the spacefaring world than it is about the war between him and the megacorp over the mecha. But you have to set up the background, you know. ;)
But, no matter what I work on, I'm just glad that everyone likes it. Sometimes I feel like it's hard to please everyone, ya know. ;)
And fear not, being the thinker I am, I'm always trying to come up with new stories to write. Current ideas I'm kicking around:
1) A modern fantasy story about seven souls tasked to defend the dimension or Earth against the forces of chaos (not "evil", but Chaos. This isn't a good vs. evil story, it's a kind of law vs. chaos story). These seven people are immortal in that they are immediately reborn when they die (meaning they CAN die) and forget everything, forced to learn it all over again. The story revolves around one of the seven relearning everything after being reincarnated.
2) A modern "fantasy" style story about a fallen angel, an exiled demon, and a very special little girl prophecized to end the war between Heaven and Hell, thereby triggering the apocalypse.
3) I've often pondered resurrecting an OLD story I once wrote, kind of like my own fan-fic by borrowing several characters out of the Firestaff epic and sticking them into a modern setting. That story involved a magical civilization breaching the dimensional barriers (Lo and Behold, the Arakites!) and invading Earth in modern times, and how the people of Earth used magic in retaliation, learned from captured Arakite war mages, to create a race of magically-endowed super-beings called the Symbions. The Symbions are a race much like the Wikuni of the Firestaff, anthropomorphic beings that possess magical powers. Tarrin naturally made an appearance as the lead character of that old spin-off, starring in the role of the oldest of all the Symbions obsessed with bringing the war to an end, even though he knew that the end of the war would cause the humans to destroy the Symbions out of fear.
Tarrin was in it, as was Binter, Ulfan, Kalina, and Shiika (though not as the Empress).
This story always had possibilities. I could probably redo it by yanking out the Firestaff characters and replacing them with unique ones, but I had a blast writing it. Too bad it only went six chapters before I lost the spiral notebook I'd been writing it in, and never bothered to rewrite it.
There's something even more for you guys to chew on. ;)
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Re: Darn, wouldn't you know, ANOTHER non-sword chapter
But question is, would you like getting the ideas for Jason's inventions (even if you won't use them)? I have quite a few ideas: passive detector using ambient energy/sound (like eyes use ambient light; based on ambient sound sonar described some time ago in Scientific American); "mind" control (meaning either EEG or muscle nerve currents) which needs learning from both (human and machine) sides, which means only one person can use it after it's locked; active camouflage; [deleted because it is kind of spoiler].fel wrote:lol, don't worry Tyl, they can imagine all they want, but I already know what Jason invents. ;)
Playing "Planescape: Torment", were you?fel wrote:1) A modern fantasy story about seven souls[...]. These seven people are immortal in that they are immediately reborn when they die (meaning they CAN die) and forget everything, forced to learn it all over again. The story revolves around one of the seven relearning everything after being reincarnated.
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I'm voting for number one, if you do decide to start a new story.
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I'm voting for #1, too, but #3 would be very, very amusing. I do the same thing with some of the characters in my favorite world, and I'd love to see Tarrin on Earth. And everyone else. That would be hilarious, to my mind. I especially love modern fantasies because they always make me look out my window and wonder if it really could be going on . . .
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I dunno, nr. 2 looks pretty interesting too...
Maybe it should be put this way; Whatever Fel writes, i will read. And most likely, i will find it interesting.
Maybe it should be put this way; Whatever Fel writes, i will read. And most likely, i will find it interesting.
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