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Inception 3

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FEL,

Nice job with chapter 3, it was always plain that the Kimdori have a unique sort of social structure, the visit fleshes out those differences nicely, although I am somewhat surprised that the various native life forms are not themselves more dangerous to the unshielded Karin visitors. Also the tone at the end succeeded in being somber without feeling forced.
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So if the den mother does not know the buried secrets, who does? I really want to see those secrets come to light, at least to the karrine, lots of chances of epic ness.
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Great update :)

Though there is two things that I wondered while reading:

1. Did it not take the Kimdori about an hour to jump to Karis at the first Consortium attack (and they were pushing it) and now it takes Jason 4 times four minutes to jump which results in about 55 minutes taking it slow (4mins jump, 10 mins break, 4 mins jump, 15 mins break, 4 mins jump, 15 mins break and the last 4 mins jump = 56 mins) - did I miss something there?

2. As I read the Grand Master has contracted Eniver’s Syndrome my first thought was that maybe the Karinnes could have a cure for that - since the Fay had a cure for all diseases as they conquered earth, the Karinne Medical could have some solution for the Grand Master... (I believe after his abdication the Grand Master could come to Karis and let himself be checked over...)

Great update, Fel, thanks again.
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I don't remember it taking THAT long, but of course it would take longer, because the Kimdori were moving more ships. Any time you're moving a large number of men/ships/vehicles, it just takes longer to get everything coordinated...even in the future.

Now you've gone and made me want to go back and re-read Insurrection.
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Actually, I thought the same as mjkj. I was wrong.
It takes nearly sixteen minutes of continuous hyperspace
travel for them to reach Karis from Kimdori. It is a long way there from here, cousin.”

“Sixteen minutes?” he gasped in surprise.

She nodded. “It is usually done in stages, because of the dangers of that much hyperspace exposure to the crew, so in
actuality it takes nearly thirty minutes to get there. The fleet only made one brief stop to relieve the crews from hypserspace
exposure, so they arrived in twenty-two minutes.
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TLGG wrote:Actually, I thought the same as mjkj. I was wrong.
It takes nearly sixteen minutes of continuous hyperspace
travel for them to reach Karis from Kimdori. It is a long way there from here, cousin.”

“Sixteen minutes?” he gasped in surprise.

She nodded. “It is usually done in stages, because of the dangers of that much hyperspace exposure to the crew, so in
actuality it takes nearly thirty minutes to get there. The fleet only made one brief stop to relieve the crews from hypserspace
exposure, so they arrived in twenty-two minutes.
Ah, I stand corrected. Then it might have been the time to assemble and man the fleet that added up with the jumps to the hour it took for them to arrive. Thank you TLGG.

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Fel wrote:Now you've gone and made me want to go back and re-read Insurrection.
Sorry Fel, I did not want to burden you...
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mjkj wrote:<clip>
1. Did it not take the Kimdori about an hour to jump to Karis at the first Consortium attack (and they were pushing it) and now it takes Jason 4 times four minutes to jump which results in about 55 minutes taking it slow (4mins jump, 10 mins break, 4 mins jump, 15 mins break, 4 mins jump, 15 mins break and the last 4 mins jump = 56 mins) - did I miss something there?
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I remember Zaa specifically stating that it required nearly an hour to jump from the Hearth to Karis, specifically as a continuous jump. She made a point that she was, herself, quite resistant to hyperspace. I believe that was in Subjugation, although it might have been Insurrection. Jason was griping to her about how long it took the Kimdori to get to Karis.

If need be, I can find the specific quote. Tomorrow. Or rather, later today after I get some sleep. Let me know if you want that.
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Well, I found the info I was looking for. It's in Insurrection, when Jason talks with Zaa after the Consortium attacked. And I must most abjectly apologize, as I was wrong.

What I was remembering was the total transit time, which totaled about an hour. Zaa stated that the transit time in hyperspace was about sixteen minutes. <hangs head in shame> My memory is, in this case, nowhere near as accurate as I would hope and expect.

Mea Culpa, mea culpa

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Ah, same here, nicolai, same here...

I also only remembered the one hour and mixed total with jump time...
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This is just a quick note to Fel. Typical of me, as I am a proof-reader for several authors.

I've noticed that you use the word conscious when you actually mean conscience. As in that little niggling voice that Disney personified as Jiminy Cricket. Not a big thing, but one that bugs me.

It was particularly evident in chapter 10 of secession, and that's what prompted me to write this. Don't know how I managed to miss that chapter until tonight. <bangs head on desk>
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Just a general question for Fel: Would it not make sense for Jason and Rahne to have a child or two?

Since they're both Terran Generations, it would certainly be 'preserving the species', and I'd think that Rahne would be part of the Generations pact on children.

I've been re-reading Inception in preparation for the new chapter, and this occurred to me. Since it hasn't been mentioned, at all, I thought I'd ask.
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Seeing as Rahne was retrained in the Faey way, she might not object. Jason might though.
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