Tribulation (spoilers) chapter 6

[dellstart]

The karrine name does indeed shine forth in all its glory. Its the only unbiased and truly neutral powerful force in the universe.

Danhai despite their realtionship is no fool . she knows where her bread is buttered and the results of burning the toast as well.

[SYED]

Danhai will use that to her advantage. First the karrine created the academy, then what urumni systems that joined the imperium are being focosed on improvement. WHile there will be those distrustful of her, they know jason would make sure any agreement is fulfilled and fair. He is famed for standing upto her. If she get it known, that karrine help is limited partially due to the loyalty to the imperium, then, there would be those who would consider a closer relationship. Karrine is famed for their technology and abilities, so being under their oversight would be welcomed.

[dellstart]

Danhai will use that to her advantage. First the karrine created the academy, then what urumni systems that joined the imperium are being focosed on improvement. WHile there will be those distrustful of her, they know jason would make sure any agreement is fulfilled and fair. He is famed for standing upto her. If she get it known, that karrine help is limited partially due to the loyalty to the imperium, then, there would be those who would consider a closer relationship. Karrine is famed for their technology and abilities, so being under their oversight would be welcomed.

just for arguments sake , if House karrine went renegade and left the Imperium, as things stand with all his technological advancements and the alliances Jason has , I am pretty sure they could survive the event. Though the fallout, both in deaths and vast social and economic upheavals would play a quite a toll.

[SYED]

He could never leave as he acts as a barrier to the worst aspect of the faey. He keeps them stable, and in line. ALso as he understands them, he can get them to follow his plans so they believe its the best for them.

[dellstart]

He could never leave as he acts as a barrier to the worst aspect of the faey. He keeps them stable, and in line. ALso as he understands them, he can get them to follow his plans so they believe its the best for them.

your 100% right.he does indeed do that , but if it came of compromising his principals or secrets , he or Rann would indeed do just that. though where shya would fit in that equation , im not sure.My guess is she would stand by her man.

[Belgarion213]

Really I see an inevitable revolution or change in the Faey or Jason leaving as inevitable. They Faey as a species are not nice as a collective. Individuals are nice, and there are some great people but the system itself is probably going to have to change eventually. Jason would probably have the support of a lot of the other empires if he decided to pull out. Sure it would be a massive blow and require a lot of effort but after the loss of the house a thousand or so years ago's and hte subsequent stop in rapid technological advancements a lot of people would back him.

[SYED]

The empress knows and encourages. A major factor would be curbing the excess of the faey noble houses, which if done mean less threats to the thrown. ALso with greater equality in the imperium, less agression to the idea of joining and less chance of rebellion. THis way instead of conquering, they could get others to join frelly.

[ANTIcarrot]

Isn't it a little short sighted of Jason to not care about who wins in Andromida? Whoever wins will learn about Cybi, and make another try for her; and they'll probably do it with all the excess warships they have after an all out galatic war. If 30,000 if merely 'what they can spare' then the entire war chest could amount to 300,000 or 3,000,000 ships. Or significantly more.

Historically, numbers beat advanced technology.

[SYED]

JUmping across galaxies is very hard, if they dont do it right they will miss. Jason just had to defend the entry point. If he had more time, he could have detroyed their whole fleet with his traps. Next time he will have a fleet as well. ALso no hope of reinforcements, and no place of sacntuary, repair or rest.

ALso , this does mean one day he will have to deal with the andromeda home base.

[DigitalMaestro]

Historically, numbers beat advanced technology.

Cite: The Skaa Empire vs the Imperium. Numbers vs. Superior Technology.

-DM

[NSC]

The Aegis is being upgraded with the new engine modifications, and the GRAF cannon. This makes me think of two scenarios for attacking the Consortium at their base.

1: Just like at Ravarra, place interdictors just close enough to allow their fields to wash over the area then jump in and out with hit and run tacticts. Then again, I seem to remember something about the nebula acting as it's own interdiction area. If my memory is accurate, will the engine modifications allow jumping through the neubla?

2: Is it possible to mount an interdictor ON the Aegis (or other ship) and have the field of effect move with the ship? A mobile interdiction field would be one hell of an advantage. Even if the field didn't move, what would happen to it if the ship jumped? Once turned off, how quickly does the effect fade?

There's also the concern of the Syndicate, and plenty of time to place interdictors, traps, ships, etc. in their path to destroy them before they reach the galaxy.

[lapland]

Fel has said very bad things happen if you try jumping with an active or moving interdictor. Something about space folding and exploding or something to that effect. Very bad things happening for a long ways away. Very unpredictable. Not something you even want to think about I'm sure.

Apparently the faster then light engines are not a product of hyperspace so can you use them at the same time as hyperspace. FTL is simply a speed. Once in hyperspace it's hard to change speed, but generally easy to maintain speed. The faster your ship in real space, the faster it is in hyperspace, so a FTL ship in real space might do wonders in hyperspace. Perhaps only Kerinne and Kemdori ship engines can handle them both at the same time. How long would it take them to reach the other galaxy at FTL hyperspace? Take a few thousand self destructing interdictors and scatter them around prime planets and ship yards with torshion weapons on board.....weaken the enemy for a while from inside enemy lines.

[dellstart]

not bad at all lapland.

sounds like a job for the boys and girls of the Legion or triple D.

[SYED]

WHat if after they capture that nebula then make that the entry station to terra. It already ensures the ships are restricted to real space. It is a way to ensure that its easier to keep indictors secret. It would force the consortium to come to them, a simple way

[imthejman85]

Isn't it a little short sighted of Jason to not care about who wins in Andromida? Whoever wins will learn about Cybi, and make another try for her; and they'll probably do it with all the excess warships they have after an all out galatic war. If 30,000 if merely 'what they can spare' then the entire war chest could amount to 300,000 or 3,000,000 ships. Or significantly more.

Historically, numbers beat advanced technology.

By the time a galactic war of that scale was completely finished, Rann or his own kids would probably be ruling the Karranes. If a fleet or fleets of that size were spotted, I figure they would go dark. Blanket the entire sector in sensor/signal-killing equipment, and go into full interdictor production. By then they should have plenty of practice with the interdictors to face the hundreds of thousands of ships you're talking about.

Make some massive weapons platforms with the Graf cannons(which have a virtually unlimited range). Maybe tow some larger asteroids into the area with a small factory churning out parts for hyperspace missiles that get pre-programmed to launch after X number of missiles are made. Seed mines across the entire area where the ships are coming from. They can't see after all with the sensor killers scrambling the signals from in-system.

Numbers might beat out technology in our era and before; but if you put 20,000 weapons platforms with overlapping fields of fire and unlimited ammo, make it to where the 300,000 enemies can only approach at a snails pace relatively speaking, and you have the ability to move the lines back AS you're shooting at them....? Well, following that analogy they would need a LOT more than 300,000 ships, and thats just to take one planet. If the Syndicate doesn't get to our galaxy from Andomeda with working FTL, then they'll simply follow the path the Consortium took.


BTW, here's the question. Would the interdictors affect an FTL driven ship in any way? Maybe slow the ship down by distorting the power generation for the engine maybe? I highly doubt it would knock them completely out like hyperspace engines. They're using completely differant spacial dynamics of travel(or so I think). Any word from the Big Man?