After a long vacation, Tarrin is back.

[Hearly]

Oh goodness, I hope not.  Having a romantic love for someone you call "mother" is kind of creepy...

MD

heh. How many times did Niami tell Tarrin that she want's his love not his devotion (sp?)

[MommyDoom]

heh. How many times did Niami tell Tarrin that she want's his love not his devotion (sp?)

Love is one thing. ROMANTIC love is another. You love your mother, right? But it's a different kind of love than  love you would have for a girlfriend or a wife, right? Niami can say she wants Tarrin's love and that's fine... but I'm pretty sure she doesn't want his ROMANTIC love.

Somebody wanna help me out here?

MD

[Hearly]

I do understand what your saying Mommydoom, But From the chapter where Mist used Tarrin's sword, the way Fel wrote it, and now this chapter, I'd have to say she is a Follower of Tarrin from her love for him, makes her one.

If not why would fel waste what 2 paragraphs saying how Mist's Soul is connected to his, even more so than her son which she wanted for many years before he healed her.

[Lochar]

Derailing the previous thoughts, I just had one.

Don't make the obvious joke please, use something original.

Anyways.  We all know that Tarrin's sword holds his power, or more realilistically is the symbol for Tarrin's reluctance to accept his divinity and re-ascend into his Godly form for good.     But if his life is threatened, he does temporarily ascend, since if he dies his soul ain't going no where except boom.  While he considers it dying if he does ascend, he'd rather do that than take a chance on having his soul destroyed.  Wonder what would happen if something were to threaten him or his family to the point where he'd have to ascend, and he had to stay ascended for a long time.  Wonder if he'd get use to that and not go back, as long as his family stays around.

[Hearly]

Derailing the previous thoughts, I just had one.

Don't make the obvious joke please, use something original.

Anyways.  We all know that Tarrin's sword holds his power, or more realilistically is the symbol for Tarrin's reluctance to accept his divinity and re-ascend into his Godly form for good.     But if his life is threatened, he does temporarily ascend, since if he dies his soul ain't going no where except boom.  While he considers it dying if he does ascend, he'd rather do that than take a chance on having his soul destroyed.  Wonder what would happen if something were to threaten him or his family to the point where he'd have to ascend, and he had to stay ascended for a long time.  Wonder if he'd get use to that and not go back, as long as his family stays around.

I see this as something he'd get over after a certain amount of time, remeber how scared he was of the Cat when he first was turned were,  now he can't imagine himself as anything else..

Or how scared he was of the wings changing him, etc...


The thing that gets me, is the other gods really have nothing to fear from Tarrin, I mean just look as to what he is the god of vs what Val was the God of, that should answer all questions.

[Lochar]

The thing that gets me, is the other gods really have nothing to fear from Tarrin, I mean just look as to what he is the god of vs what Val was the God of, that should answer all questions.

Think of the movie small soldiers ( I think.  It's the one about the toys with the military AI chips).  When your playthings and creations learn and are capable of fighting back, you want to remove them all, even if one of them helped you against the others.  There's always the chance it'll go against you later on, if your goals arn't the same later.

[Tylhandras]

Thats true, but would a god of what symbolizes all things good actually do that?  Thats about on par with saying a cat could have puppies.

As to the elder gods, they see the firestaff as a necessary evil in their world.  TO them, anything made by the firestaff is evil and must be driven out or destroyed.  Its a bit childish, but when one is that powerful, there are few who can tell you how to behave.

My two cents,
-Tyl

[Hearly]

With the next book called demon's bane, and knowing there are only a few more chapters in Fire, Either the following will happen..

The other gods give in to Niami, or Tarrin trys to stop her from hurting her relationships with the other gods, that make them realize he's no threat as long as they don't mess with him.


No matter where Tarrin is, I'd assume Demon's bane is an apt title as Demon's threaten Sennadar, and as "Defender of Sennadar" Tarrin will fight them, and give in to his True power to stop another blood war.

[Graewolfe]

or he goes on the classic dimension hoping trip to slay demons and things

[Hearly]

or he goes on the classic dimension hoping trip to slay demons and things

Graewolfe, why would he go there and kill them? I mean why Risk that, If he would die, his soul would be destroyed, he knows that, so why risk it? Also is it truely possible to kill a demon? I mean if he kills a demon in Sennadar or where he is now, they just return to the abyss, I don't think Tarrin would go to the Abyss to attempt to kill them (if he could) because there would be too many of them and they'd swarm him no matter how powerfull he is.

[Shadowhawk]

Also is it truely possible to kill a demon? I mean if he kills a demon in Sennadar or where he is now, they just return to the abyss, I don't think Tarrin would go to the Abyss to attempt to kill them (if he could) because there would be too many of them and they'd swarm him no matter how powerfull he is.

Fel hinted that it is possible to truly kill a Demon. Check the forum.

[Hearly]

Shadow, I just went throu the last 20-30 posts Fel has made, and no where did he imply or hint  that Tarrin could truely Kill a demon. Yes he can "kill" them where he is, and even in Sennadar, but all that did was send them back to the Abyss, not kill them perma..

[Shadowhawk]

Shadow, I just went throu the last 20-30 posts Fel has made, and no where did he imply or hint  that Tarrin could truely Kill a demon. Yes he can "kill" them where he is, and even in Sennadar, but all that did was send them back to the Abyss, not kill them permanently...

I'm sorry, it was not post by Fel, but by Greymist on behalf of Fel. I don't think it was that hard to find, as the title of the thread was: "Re: How to kill a demon? (slight spoiler)".
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I'm fairly sure I've gone over the thing about how if a demon's body is destroyed it has to spend 100 years remaking it so it can go to other worlds (what demons do really is use something like an icon in another world).

Banishing is lame and weak, okay fine only strong priests can do it but all it does it send them back to hell intact ready to be summoned again. If you really want to stop a demon coming back any time soon destroy it's body, be it with otherworldly magic, otherworldly big f**k off swords or physics (note Shaz'Baket didn't get crushed dead she escaped, she has her ways and means).

The ways to completely kill a demon are: go to the abyss and kill them there and they will be dead dead, but good luck doing that as they can all express more power there OR if you're a god (hint hint....) flood the link to their soul with divine power. Remember how during one of the fights with Jegojah when Tarrin used sorcery on him he saw a wispy link, it went off to Jegojah's soul and Tarrin could have actually destroyed him once and for all by flooding that link with his power (Fel wanted to keep Jegojah around though as we now know why), the same thing can be done with demons but it requires power many times that in magnitude (only a god could do it)

[Graewolfe]

wasnt really implying that hed go the the abbyss and perma kill demons for a living rather that hed be taking a long vacation from his home dimension touring a bunch of the alternates and along the way cant stop himself from helping out by killing(thier bodys attleast) all the demons he comes across

[flail93]

sorry to go back in the questions, but if tarrin got his powers from the fire staff, he's already a god in his own right and wouln't need to have "believers" right?